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04/28/2021 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 28, 2021                                                                                         
                           8:03 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harriet Drummond, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Andi Story, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky                                                                                                 
Representative Grier Hopkins                                                                                                    
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Ronald Gillham                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to residency requirements for public school                                                                    
enrollment for certain children of active duty military and                                                                     
National Guard members."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 48                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to eligibility for the Alaska performance                                                                      
scholarship program."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 53                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: MILITARY CHILDREN SCHOOL RESIDENCY WAIVER                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MCCARTY                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/21                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       MLV, EDC                                                                                               
03/04/21       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/04/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/04/21       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
03/09/21       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/09/21       (H)       Moved CSHB 53(MLV) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/09/21       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
03/10/21       (H)       MLV RPT CS(MLV) 6DP                                                                                    
03/10/21       (H)       DP: CLAMAN, TARR, SHAW, STORY, NELSON,                                                                 
                         TUCK                                                                                                   
04/28/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 48                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: AK PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP; ELIGIBILITY                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STORY                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/21                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       EDC, FIN                                                                                               
04/12/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/12/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/21       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/28/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEN MCCARTY                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, introduced HB 53.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DENEEN TUCK, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information during the hearing on                                                               
HB 53 on behalf of Representative McCarty, prime sponsor.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TAMMIE PERREAULT, Northwest Regional Liaison                                                                                    
Defense-State Liaison Office                                                                                                    
U.S. Department of Defense                                                                                                      
Olympia, Washington                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 53.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MARY HAKALA, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on HB 48 on behalf of                                                               
Representative Story, prime sponsor.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH RIDDLE, Division Operations Manager                                                                                     
Innovation and Education Excellence                                                                                             
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided  information and answered questions                                                             
during the hearing on HB 48.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANA EFIRD, Executive Director                                                                                                  
Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided information during  the hearing on                                                             
HB 48.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
KERRY THOMAS, Director of Program Operations                                                                                    
Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided information during  the hearing on                                                             
HB 48.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:03:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIET DRUMMOND  called the  House Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 8:03 a.m.   Representatives Story,                                                               
Cronk, Gillham,  Hopkins, and Drummond  were present at  the call                                                               
to  order.   Representatives  Zulkosky and  Prax  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        HB 53-MILITARY CHILDREN SCHOOL RESIDENCY WAIVER                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:04:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                               
would  be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  53,  "An  Act relating  to  residency                                                               
requirements for  public school  enrollment for  certain children                                                               
of active duty military and National Guard members."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee was CSHB 53(MLV).]                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:04:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEN  MCCARTY, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor,  introduced  HB  53.    He  said  children  of  military                                                               
servicemembers  are currently  not  allowed to  enroll in  school                                                               
until arrival in  Alaska, resulting in missed  deadlines and late                                                               
course  enrollment.     Allowing  registration,   enrollment,  or                                                               
application   prior   to   establishing   residency,   but   with                                                               
documentation  of a  pending military  relocation  to the  state,                                                               
would  reduce  stress  on  the family  and  children  during  the                                                               
transition  between locations.   He  said no  new online  systems                                                               
would  be  required,  and  advanced  enrollment  benefits  school                                                               
districts by allowing them to  make projections based on expected                                                               
student population.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:06:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:06 a.m. to 8:07 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:07:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENEEN  TUCK, Staff,  Representative  Ken  McCarty, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of  Representative McCarty, prime sponsor,                                                               
reminded the committee that similar  legislation was heard during                                                               
the Thirty-First  Alaska State Legislature  as HB 109.   She said                                                               
the only difference between the two  bills is a definition of the                                                               
word "guardian."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:08:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked for a  definition of "PCS," as referenced                                                               
by Representative McCarty.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUCK deferred to Ms. Perreault.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:09:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMIE  PERREAULT,  Northwest   Regional  Liaison,  Defense-State                                                               
Liaison Office, U.S. Department  of Defense, testified in support                                                               
of HB  53.   She explained  that PCS  means "permanent  change of                                                               
station," a term  used when military personnel  receive orders to                                                               
move to a different duty station.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:10:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY shared  her  supposition  that many  states                                                               
allow the practice as proposed in HB 53.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PERREAULT  replied that the  policy is very popular  in other                                                               
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:11:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked  whether there is a  fiscal note attached                                                               
to HB 53.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY replied no.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUCK briefly reviewed two zero fiscal notes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  said he  meant that  there were  two zero                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:13:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  shared her understanding that  the proposal                                                               
under HB 53  is currently being practiced, and  that the proposed                                                               
legislation would formalize the practice in statute.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY replied that is correct.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY said she believes  the bill is very good for                                                               
families relocating to Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:14:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND said HB 53 was held over.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         HB 48-AK PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP; ELIGIBILITY                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:14:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                               
would be, HOUSE BILL NO. 48,  "An Act relating to eligibility for                                                               
the Alaska performance scholarship program."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:14:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:14 a.m. to 8:15 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:15:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY, as prime sponsor  of HB 48, paraphrased the                                                               
sponsor statement,  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     For   the   last   decade,   the   Alaska   Performance                                                                    
     Scholarship  (APS)  has  made  postsecondary  education                                                                    
     more   accessible  for   Alaska's  young   adults.  The                                                                    
     scholarship  has helped  thousands  of students  afford                                                                    
     college   and  career   technical  certifications   and                                                                    
     encouraged countless  students to  stay on track  to be                                                                    
     college and career  ready upon graduation. Furthermore,                                                                    
     encouraging students to  attend postsecondary education                                                                    
     in-state   reduces   workforce   shortages   and   out-                                                                    
     migration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     However, according  to a recent  study by  the McDowell                                                                    
     Group  for  the   Alaska  Commission  on  Postsecondary                                                                    
     Education  (ACPE), the  APS award  has fallen  almost ?                                                                    
     short of its expected eligibility and use.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     To expand student use, the  original draft of this bill                                                                    
     sought to  expand the eligible  pool of  APS applicants                                                                    
     by adding  career technical education (CTE)  courses as                                                                    
     an  option  to the  required  curriculum  for APS.  The                                                                    
     skills  learned  in  CTE courses  are  needed  in  many                                                                    
     career fields in the  Alaska workforce. Furthermore, in                                                                    
     Alaska,  data  shows  that  students  enrolled  in  CTE                                                                    
     concentrators  are 17%  more  likely  to graduate  than                                                                    
     their counterparts                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Version G of  House Bill 48 takes the  vision of making                                                                    
     APS more  accessible to deserving Alaskans  further, by                                                                    
     incorporating the findings of  the McDowell Group's APS                                                                    
     study. The bill does this in five ways:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          1.  Allows  career  technical education  (CTE)  to                                                                    
          count  towards  eligibility   for  the  APS.  This                                                                    
          encourages  students to  pursue careers  needed in                                                                    
          the Alaska workforce.                                                                                                 
          2.  Increases the  eligibility window  for use  of                                                                    
          the  award  from 6  years  after  graduation to  8                                                                    
          years.                                                                                                                
          3. Increases  the award amount for  the first time                                                                    
          in   over  10   years,  keeping   the  scholarship                                                                    
          competitive   compared   to  offers   from   other                                                                    
          institutions.                                                                                                         
          4. Removes the  standardized testing requirements.                                                                    
          There  is growing  evidence that  college entrance                                                                    
          exam  scores  aren't   correlated  to  success  in                                                                    
          postsecondary performance, and that  GPA is a much                                                                    
          better   indicator.  Also,   entrance  exams   are                                                                    
          increasingly proven to  create barriers to student                                                                    
          eligibility   because   of  the   geographic   and                                                                    
          financial hurdles.                                                                                                    
          5.  Keeps students  aware  of  their standing  and                                                                    
          remaining  requirements  needed   to  achieve  the                                                                    
          award.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Financial assistance  provided by  the APS is  vital to                                                                    
     many  young  Alaskans seeking  postsecondary  training,                                                                    
     including those  who choose  a CTE  path. Postsecondary                                                                    
     education  offers students  the  opportunity to  attain                                                                    
     skills that  can lead to  industry jobs  and satisfying                                                                    
     careers.  It  also meets  Alaska's  goal  of a  skilled                                                                    
     workforce.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:22:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY recalled  a  presentation  by the  McKinley                                                               
Research  Group on  findings and  recommendations regarding  APS.                                                               
Key  takeaways, she  said, were  that  annual scholarship  awards                                                               
amounted  to  approximately half  of  what  was anticipated,  and                                                               
students served  has declined  since 2016.   She  reiterated that                                                               
CTE students  need to be  part of the  program, and she  said her                                                               
goal  is  to  draft  legislation   that  honors  CTE  within  APS                                                               
structure, increases  opportunities for  students to  qualify for                                                               
the  scholarship, and  eliminate  some  structural inequities  in                                                               
order  to better  serve Alaskan  students who  seek postsecondary                                                               
training.     When  asked  how   APS  affected   decisions  about                                                               
postsecondary  education,  she  said,   72  percent  of  surveyed                                                               
students said  APS was a  major influence  in the decision.   She                                                               
then  directed  committee  members' attention  to  the  committee                                                               
packet and recommendation matrix.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:27:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  asked  whether   she  was  referring  to  the                                                               
McDowell Group report.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:27:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  HAKALA,  Staff,  Representative Andi  Story,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of  Representative Story,  prime sponsor,                                                               
pointed out  that the initial  matrix was provided by  the Alaska                                                               
Commission on  Postsecondary Education, and was  restructured for                                                               
readability.   She directed  attention to page  9 of  the report,                                                               
which provides further analysis on the recommendations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:28:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   STORY   reviewed   the   first   recommendation,                                                               
"Eliminate   the    distinction   between   CTE    and   academic                                                               
eligibility."    She said  this  could  be "easily"  achieved  by                                                               
eliminating the WorkKeys test.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:29:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND asked  whether  a  specific recommendation  is                                                               
included in the proposed legislation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY responded, "The only  thing in my bill right                                                               
now  is  expanding CTE  eligibility."    She expressed  that  her                                                               
intention is  to work with  the committee on amendments  based on                                                               
the recommendations in the report.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:30:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  whether Representative  Story intends                                                               
to pass the bill during the current legislative session.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY replied  that  she intends  to  work on  it                                                               
through  the interim,  involving  the  university, Department  of                                                               
Education  and Early  Development, and  other stakeholders.   She                                                               
said  she  wanted to  discuss  the  recommendations made  by  the                                                               
McDowell Group after assessment of APS.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:31:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GILLHAM  asked  whether  APS  could  be  used  at                                                               
Northern Industrial Training.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY deferred to Ms. Riddle.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:32:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH  RIDDLE,  Division  Operations  Manager,  Innovation  and                                                               
Education   Excellence,  Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                               
Development,  responded  that  APS  can be  used  at  any  Alaska                                                               
training facility or university.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:33:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS  expressed support  for  HB  48 based  on                                                               
discussions held in other committees.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:33:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRONK noted  that  educational  focus has  always                                                               
been "go to college," and he expressed support for HB 48.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:34:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND noted  committee members'  agreement that  the                                                               
first recommendation should be part of the proposed legislation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  the  importance  of making  sure                                                               
students are award of the  possibility of using APS for technical                                                               
education.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS  offered  that training  centers  in  CTE                                                               
areas should  also be apprised,  perhaps through the  Division of                                                               
Corporations, Business, and Professional  Licensing (CBPL) at the                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community,  and  Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:35:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   DRUMMOND  invited   Ms.  Efird   to  comment   on  the                                                               
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:36:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANA   EFIRD,   Executive    Director,   Alaska   Commission   on                                                               
Postsecondary Education  (ACPE), pointed  out that  the committee                                                               
packet  includes  a  list  of   authorized  institution  for  APS                                                               
students,  and she  said  that ACPE  is  tasked with  authorizing                                                               
students and institutions eligibility.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:38:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GILLHAM  asked   how  the  authorization  process                                                               
works.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD replied that the  institution would contact ACPE, which                                                               
would provide the institution with the eligibility requirements.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GILLHAM  asked  about  eligibility  for  specific                                                               
training programs, such as training to operate a crane.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD responded  that the institution would have  to meet APS                                                               
eligibility requirements through ACPE.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:40:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  commented that a former  executive director of                                                               
ACPE  was   also  a  former  president   of  Northern  Industrial                                                               
Training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:41:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  continued  to the  second  recommendation,                                                               
"Offer  multiple  pathways  and  opportunities  for  students  to                                                               
demonstrate  academic  rigor as  an  alternative  to the  current                                                               
rigid curriculum requirements."   She said students are currently                                                               
required  to  take a  certain  number  and  type of  credits  for                                                               
graduation,  and  that  she  hopes  to add  CTE  classes  to  the                                                               
curriculum  and  to change  certain  requirements  to respond  to                                                               
those  schools  and districts  that  have  insufficient staff  to                                                               
offer the full curriculum.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:42:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE     HOPKINS    expressed     concerns    regarding                                                               
geographically inaccessible  schools across  the state.   He then                                                               
asked  whether  the  number  of applications  for  APS  has  been                                                               
decreasing, and if so, whether  there is space within the funding                                                               
levels for ACPE to rebuild the program as originally intended.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY deferred to Ms. Efird.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD  stated that the  commission received  an appropriation                                                               
of  $11.75  million  to  award   APS  scholarships,  with  actual                                                               
disbursement  of approximately  $9  million.   She said  original                                                               
projections of  need exceeded the appropriation,  and APS funding                                                               
comes   from  the   higher   education   investment  fund,   with                                                               
recommendations   from  the   Department  of   Revenue  regarding                                                               
expenditures based on a 7 percent return on investment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:45:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  commented that it  would be a  good thing                                                               
for more students to access APS,  and that ensuring the number of                                                               
students  served   doesn't  decline,   especially  in   light  of                                                               
increasing education, is important.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:46:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked  Ms. Efird what happens to  the funds not                                                               
used for APS.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD  replied that the  money stays in the  higher education                                                               
investment fund.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND asked  whether  APS award  levels  are set  in                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD  responded that  award levels are  set in  statute, and                                                               
that  one  of  the  recommendations that  will  be  discussed  is                                                               
increasing awards  to respond to  inflation and  increasing costs                                                               
of higher education.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:47:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  whether  ACPE could  "figure it  out"                                                               
instead of changing the statute.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD asked for clarification.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  said, "Apparently  ... we  need to  change a                                                               
statute in  order to change  the amount."   He expressed  that if                                                               
the statute  were to change, decision-making  authority should be                                                               
conveyed  to  ACPE,  thereby  making  it  easier  to  respond  to                                                               
changing market conditions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  explained that the  curriculum requirements                                                               
are  in statute,  so  the statute  would need  to  be changed  to                                                               
convey authority to ACPE.   She then acknowledged the committee's                                                               
desire for flexibility.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:50:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND noted  the dollar  value of  the award  in the                                                               
report referenced would require a statutory change.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:51:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAKALA  pointed out  the complexity  of the  requirements and                                                               
the  need to  have  someone  guide the  student  through the  APS                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  expressed her  agreement, and she  said Ms.                                                               
Hakala's comment leads into the  third recommendation, which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Base  eligibility  determinations  on the  first  three                                                                    
     years  of  high  school  so  students  have  APS  award                                                                    
     information when they are  making their decisions. This                                                                    
      will also bring APS in line with other scholarships                                                                       
       (including UA's University Scholars) and will help                                                                       
     make Alaska postsecondary schools more competitive.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  said basing  the award  on the  first three                                                               
years instead of  the full four years of high  school would allow                                                               
scholarship notification  early enough  so students can  be aware                                                               
of the requirements and plan accordingly.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:54:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked why the  eligibility should be based on                                                               
the first three years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY replied  that the  scholarship requirements                                                               
mean  a  student  needs  to start  during  their  freshman  year,                                                               
because  the  curriculum is  a  "full  load"  each year  of  high                                                               
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:56:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS   said  if  flexibility   in  scholarship                                                               
eligibility is to be expanded, it  should be less specific in the                                                               
exact number of credits per subject.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY deferred to Ms. Efird.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:58:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD said  the focus of the  recommendation under discussion                                                               
is  timing; students  need  to know  by the  end  of junior  year                                                               
whether they will have the financial  support of APS, so they can                                                               
decide whether  or where to  attend considering the  existence of                                                               
funding.  One of the major  reasons for the existence of APS, she                                                               
said, is to keep students in the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:00:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  expressed that it seems  the committee members                                                               
agree regarding recommendation three,  then directed attention to                                                               
recommendation four,  which read,  "Consider using  round numbers                                                               
for award levels to make them easier to remember and calculate."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  explained  that  the  top-level  award  is                                                               
currently $4,755,  and the recommendation  is to make  that award                                                               
level $5,000, and  rounding the other levels to  make them easier                                                               
to  calculate.   She pointed  out that  the actual  value of  the                                                               
award should be  addressed, due to inflation  and increasing cost                                                               
of university, since the award hasn't been increased since 2011.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  said  she doesn't  disagree  that  the  award                                                               
amount should be changed to keep  up with the costs of education;                                                               
however, she said, the higher  education investment fund has been                                                               
"chipped  away at"  and may  not generate  additional revenue  to                                                               
cover  increases in  scholarships, both  in award  levels and  in                                                               
number of awards.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:03:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   EFIRD   shared   that  ACPE   reviewed   the   report   and                                                               
recommendations, and that it hears  from students that the dollar                                                               
amounts  of  APS  are not  financially  competitive  with  offers                                                               
students  have received  from institutions  outside Alaska.   She                                                               
said   APS,   the  Alaska   Education   Grant,   and  costs   for                                                               
participation in  the Washington,  Wyoming, Alaska,  Montana, and                                                               
Idaho (WWAMI)  medical program  are all  supported by  the Higher                                                               
Education Investment Fund.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:05:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND said  there appears to be  general agreement in                                                               
the need to address recommendations four and 13.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  pointed out  that recommendations  five and                                                               
six reflect  administrative changes that could  be change without                                                               
changing the statute.   She shared the current  requirement of 15                                                               
credits per  semester, for a  total of  30 credits for  the year,                                                               
and expressed that  a part-time, working student  would find that                                                               
to be a heavy load.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD deferred to Ms. Thomas.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:07:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRY THOMAS,  Director of Program Operations,  Alaska Commission                                                               
on Postsecondary Education, proposed  changing the "per semester"                                                               
credits to cumulative credits.  She  said the goal of the program                                                               
is to  graduate students on  time, but the problem  students face                                                               
is the lack  of flexibility.  Freshman credit  requirements is 12                                                               
per semester, she said, due to  it being the student's first year                                                               
in college;  it then increases to  15 credits per semester.   She                                                               
said students  would like flexibility to  take additional courses                                                               
over  the summer,  or during  another  time in  the program,  and                                                               
"bank" those credits for when courses become more challenging.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:10:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  asked how  CTE credit  requirements would                                                               
be adjusted to include those students in that flexibility.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  THOMAS replied  that she  doesn't  believe the  per-semester                                                               
credit requirement is applicable to CTE programs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:11:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   STORY   continued   to   recommendation   seven,                                                               
"Increase the number of semesters  and years students are allowed                                                               
to  use  the   award  to  enable  Alaska's   high  proportion  of                                                               
nontraditional students."   She  said this  would be  a statutory                                                               
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX mentioned "circulating the money."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY shared that most  students are trying to get                                                               
through  the  program  as  quickly as  possible,  and  that  it's                                                               
helpful for  students to  have the assurance  that they  will not                                                               
lose the award as a result of taking a little longer to finish.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:12:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD clarified the intent  of recommendation seven, which is                                                               
to  maintain  the total  award,  while  allowing flexibility  for                                                               
nontraditional students who need to work.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   DRUMMOND  asked   whether  recipients   are  currently                                                               
required to  expend the award in  four years, and she  shared her                                                               
understanding  that it's  possible to  stretch the  award to  six                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD deferred to Ms. Thomas.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:14:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  THOMAS  clarified that  a  student  currently receives  four                                                               
years of scholarship awards within  six years of graduation.  She                                                               
shared  that the  students most  disadvantaged under  the current                                                               
structure  are the  nontraditional  students studying  part-time,                                                               
since the lifetime  maximum is eight semesters.  If  a student is                                                               
part-time for four  years, their lifetime maximum  for funding is                                                               
exhausted  without  having received  the  same  dollar amount  of                                                               
funding  as  a  student  attending four  years  full-time.    She                                                               
expressed agreement with establishing  a dollar amount that could                                                               
be  equivalent  to  eight  terms  at  the  full-time  level,  and                                                               
allowing  students to  utilize the  scholarship within  a certain                                                               
period  of  time  without penalizing  students  the  way  they're                                                               
penalized under the current system.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:16:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  whether there  is a  penalty for  not                                                               
attaining a degree or certificate after having used APS.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  THOMAS replied  that  there  are no  penalties  in terms  of                                                               
repayment, only  the inability  to receive  the remainder  of the                                                               
scholarship.   If a student  is not  on track, she  said, they're                                                               
not eligible for subsequent disbursements.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  expressed the  viewpoint that  extending the                                                               
time  period during  which the  scholarship could  be used  would                                                               
increase the risk of dropouts.   He said, "I don't know what that                                                               
risk is,  but if we  extend the time period  out, then we  have a                                                               
risk of  giving a scholarship  to somebody that  doesn't deliver.                                                               
Our expectation,  I think, from  the ... state's  perspective, is                                                               
that the student  completes the program.  If  they don't, there's                                                               
some loss to the state."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:20:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY   expressed  the   need  for   balance  and                                                               
flexibility,  and for  meeting students'  needs  where they  are.                                                               
She  then  share  recommendation eight,  "Eliminate  standardized                                                               
testing requirements,"  which would be  a statutory change.   She                                                               
said key  findings show that  standardized test  requirements are                                                               
the biggest  barrier to APS  eligibility, likely due to  the cost                                                               
of the  test.  She  said the state paid  the fee for  students to                                                               
take  the  standardized  tests  until 2016,  which  is  when  APS                                                               
eligibility peaked.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:22:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  agreed  that  standardized  tests  are  not                                                               
complete measures of performance.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HAKALA shared  the growing  body of  research that  say high                                                               
school grade point  averages (GPAs) are five  times stronger than                                                               
American  College  Testing  (ACT) scores  at  predicting  college                                                               
graduation.  She shared a  book called "Crossing the Finish Line:                                                             
Completing  College at  America's Public  Universities," and  she                                                             
shared a passage  from a Harvard Educational Review  of the book,                                                               
which read as follows:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Another significant  contribution of  this book  is its                                                                    
     revelation that the SAT and  ACT have little predictive                                                                    
     validity for  whether or not  a student  graduates from                                                                    
     college or  when they leave.  With the  unique features                                                                    
     of their  data set,  Bowen, Chingos, and  McPherson are                                                                    
     able  to demonstrate  that high  school GPA  is a  much                                                                    
     stronger predictor of college  performance and that the                                                                    
     SAT  and  ACT  are  largely  proxies  for  high  school                                                                    
     quality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HAKALA said  requirements for  SAT and  ACT tests  have been                                                               
waived  due  to  the  COVID-19  pandemic;  therefore,  she  said,                                                               
eligibility   numbers   have   increased.      Nationally,   many                                                               
universities have suspended the  testing requirements and are now                                                               
considering waiving the requirement long-term, she said.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX said he agrees  that other criteria should be                                                               
considered, but he has concerns with eliminating the testing.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:27:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOPKINS   stated  his  support   for  eliminating                                                               
standardized  test   score  requirements  and   substituting  the                                                               
standard  with   a  student's  academic  record,   based  on  the                                                               
opportunities a student has been able to take advantage of.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX shared  his understanding  that universities                                                               
used  to have  prerequisites  in order  to  register for  certain                                                               
classes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY agreed that  students should be prepared for                                                               
their time  in college,  and she opined  that academic  rigor can                                                               
still be achieved with flexibility.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:29:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked what the WorkKeys test is.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY deferred to Ms. Riddle.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:30:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RIDDLE explained that WorkKeys  was put in place for students                                                               
who  were taking  the certificate  route instead  of the  college                                                               
route for higher education.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:31:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY said she  appreciated the research on APS                                                               
with   regards   to   equity  and   accessibility,   noting   the                                                               
disproportionate number of students have  not been able to access                                                               
the scholarship.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:32:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    STORY   continued    her   presentation    with                                                               
recommendation   nine,   "If   testing   requirements   are   not                                                               
eliminated,  reestablish state  policy requiring  and paying  for                                                               
all Alaska  high school  students to  take a  standardized test,"                                                               
and recommendation  10, "Consider replacing numerical  cut scores                                                               
with  qualitative criteria  for  establishing cut  scores."   She                                                               
pointed out  that these two  recommendations are statutory.   She                                                               
continued to  recommendation 11,  "Ensure all students  get early                                                               
and   ongoing    academic   counseling   to    meet   eligibility                                                               
requirements," which  is a mix  of administrative  and statutory,                                                               
and  recommendation 12,  "Include  disparity  analysis in  annual                                                               
outcomes  reports,"  which  is   administrative.    She  directed                                                               
committee members'  attention to  page 14  of the  McDowell Group                                                               
report,  which discusses  regional disparities  in qualifications                                                               
due to access to testing curriculum.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND stated that recommendations  11 and 3 appeal to                                                               
align in  terms of eligibility determinations,  and should derive                                                               
from the same statute.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY agreed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAKALA  stated that recommendation  11 also directly  ties to                                                               
recommendation  16.   She referred  to  page 20  of the  McDowell                                                               
Group  report,  which  read   as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     "As  funding decreases,  so do  these opportunities.  A                                                                    
     good example  of this would  be that five years  ago we                                                                    
     had three  counselors and  they made  regular in-person                                                                    
     visits to  all our  schools, but now  we only  have one                                                                    
     counselor for the entire district."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HAKALA said  she  knows  that counseling  has  been an  area                                                               
experiencing "severe"  cuts due  to the eroding  purchasing power                                                               
of foundation funding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:36:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY noted  that  consideration  13 had  already                                                               
been  discussed,  and  she  shared  consideration  14,  "Alaska's                                                               
fiscal  imbalance has  an impact,"  described on  page 10  of the                                                               
McDowell  Group  report.   She  recalled  the  2018 veto  of  APS                                                               
funding, pointing out that students  suddenly didn't know whether                                                               
they would  receive their  scholarships, thereby  choosing higher                                                               
education  institutions  outside  Alaska.    She  then  presented                                                               
consideration  15, "Quality  &  relevant postsecondary  education                                                               
programs  are essential,"  and she  shared that  quality, access,                                                               
and cost are all considered when choosing a program.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:40:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRONK  stressed the importance of  making students                                                               
aware  of existing  programs, and  he suggested  that the  reason                                                               
students  don't join  the  military is  because  they don't  know                                                               
there could be educational opportunities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  pointed out  the ACPE  website, and  she added                                                               
that  loss   of  counselors  hurts  students'   ability  to  seek                                                               
opportunities.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:42:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  agreed that  programs and  opportunities are                                                               
not  well-advertised,  and he  said  that  when  he was  in  high                                                               
school, he didn't know what school  counselors were for.  He then                                                               
discussed his  nephew, who  went to  college outside  Alaska, and                                                               
who found  that APS  is behind  what is  offered by  programs and                                                               
institutions  in the  Lower 48.   He  then asked  for information                                                               
regarding the methodology used in the McDowell Group report.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY agreed that APS  needs to be advertised, and                                                               
she said she  doesn't believe people are able to  access the ACPE                                                               
website.  She asked how ACPE advertises its programs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:45:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. EFIRD said  ACPE sends out letters to  eligible students, and                                                               
she expressed that there are many  other ways for ACPE to support                                                               
the  efforts  to ensure  students  know  about opportunities  for                                                               
financial aid.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  added that pages  2-4 of the  report detail                                                               
the methodology of  the study.  The survey  for students eligible                                                               
for APS was sent to 14,374  graduates via email, with a password-                                                               
encrypted link to the survey.   The response rate was 22 percent,                                                               
she said.  The survey for  ineligible students was sent to 32,287                                                               
graduates, and the response rate was 9 percent.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:48:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY said HB 48  is about encouraging students to                                                               
stay in Alaska for higher education and to begin their careers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:49:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND stated HB 48 was held over.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:49:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 9:50 a.m.                                                                 

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HB 48 - Reference APS Rpt Recommendations MATRIX.pdf HEDC 4/28/2021 8:00:00 AM
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HB 48 The Harvard Educational Review - HEPG.pdf HEDC 4/28/2021 8:00:00 AM
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HB 48 High school GPAs are stronger predictors of college graduation than ACT scores.pdf HEDC 4/28/2021 8:00:00 AM
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